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Старый 22.04.2016, 16:36   #1
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egypt-scythia should be at least 14k for egy if no chars.
egypt-pont is just ridicilous. i say we give 14k for egy here, tho i can be ok with 13.5k if ppl will protest.
egypt-dacia should be 13.5k if no chars or less.
egypt-thrace i say 12.5k if no chars for egy.

numidia-carthage is enough 15k for num if carth will have 12.5k.
numidia-brits, i say 14.5k for brits no chars,if numidia will have 14k. my last tourney proved brits to be terible faction w/o chars.
numidia-greeks...sorry madgeh but i will beat you and most of your clanmates same as 90% of the players with 15 15 this matchup. thats how it should look btw. i swear the god that one who accept this should declare himself totaly insane and look for help. i say 15k vs 15k this matchup.
numidia-macedon is more than enough for numidia to have 15.5k if mace have 12.5k.
numidia-seleucid is even more unbelievable than numidia greeks. by what logic is bigger money gap between armenia and numidia, or parthia and numidia or carthage and numidia(lol) than numidia and sele, plus 2chars for sele? you on drugs? if sele is 13.5k and 2 chars, then i say 17k at least for numidia or 17.5k. if reduce sele, than nmidia 15k and sele 11 or 11.5k and 2 chars.
numidia-gaul, also at least 14k for numidia. its totaly insane this money. the best option is to take money on this matchup from my last tourney. numidia 15k and gaul 16k.

carthage-scythia is something which only hos brain can suggest. i say carthage 14.5k and scythia 15k here.
carthage-armenia should be 14.5k for armenia.
carthage-parthia should be 14.5k for parthia.
carthage-pontus should be 14.5 for pont.
carthage-dacia simply CANT be allowed this money for dacia. cause carthage will only chance be kinda full rush. dacian superior skirmish will force carthage on one type of army and thats unacceptable. 15k for dacia here.
carthage-germania, i think germans can have 16k here...
carthage-gaul is enough 13k for carthage.

scythia-pontus, add 500 denarii to scy or decrease 500 denarii to pont. i preffer second option.
scythia-rome must be at least 13.5k or even better 14k for rome. yes 14k.
scythia-brits is just hilarious. what the hell? with what is scythia supposed to kill 2 warlords, plus 2 ca? you realize what will happen to entire scythia army when these chars start cutting around? damn i promised i will do this together with madgeh, but seems this is big waste of time, since entire table sucks. tbh zyzzs table was pretty much good, with only few changes, it would be perfect. this one is probably even worse than the one for gladiator...1 fucking chariot for brits in this case or 2 but no warlords.
scythia-dacia can be 13.5k for scythia and its fair.
scythia-germania, 15 vs 15? cmon madgeh, are you out of your fucking mind? cmon win me one of 5 with germans vs scythia this money, i am gonna kiss you in the ass!!! 14.5k, so i wont exaggerate, but could be even less for scy.
scythia-thrace 13.5k for scy.

armenia-thrace is one of the best for lols for now? how? why? are you just that dumb? or trolling here? 13k or old money where ws 13.5k. all less for armenia here is for open boycott of con if that happens.
armenia-seleucid is enough 13.5k for sele.
armenia-gaul must be at least 19k for gaul, all the rest is for lols.

parthia-ponthus is enough 2 chars for pont is 13k money.
parthia-rome 14.5k for parthia.
parthia-brits must be mistake. this is too much even for hos stupidity. i guess 13k 2 common chars(no warlords) is ok.
parthia-dacia is ok 15.5k for dacia.
parthia-germania, one more for lols. 14k for parthia.
parthia-thrace, 12.5k for parthia.
parthia-sele, if goes w/o chars sele should be 14.5k for parthia and its more than obvious. i think everyone will agree on this one.
parthia-gaul, 19k for gaul, ofc at least. and for this you can ask your clanmate, since hos value opinions only of their members. i played mace vs gaul with tara 12k vs 19k. we both won as mace. so i really dont know how you think that gaul can win cata faction with this money. its even more dangerous to try than landing on mars.

spain-pont is also something very terrible lol. this table heavily sucks lol. i say use money from old table. 15.5k for spain and 12.5k 1 char for pont. its more than enough.
spain-greeks, 15 15 ofc. i really dont know in what dream you living.


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ok since this is waste of time, i am gonna just stop here. since i am sure noone will accept this list. i suggest we discuss old one, which was by oppinion of many 90% accurate, and even these 10% werent some big mistakes.
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Старый 22.04.2016, 17:13   #2
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this one is table from last con.

egypt-carthage, can be 13.5 for egy, but also not bad this one.
egypt-scythia is prolly fair, but i guess 14k no chars for egy is also fair.
egypt-armenia can be 12.5k 2 chars for egy.
egypt-germania is ok from madgehs list i guess.
egypt thrace 12.5 for egy no chars.
egypt-greeks 500 more for greeks or 500 less for egy.
egypt-macedon is ok 12.5 for egy.
egypt-sele 12.5 or 13k for egy.

numidia-brits, brits should be limited here to play w/o warlords.
numidia-greeks, 15 15 i say. if all thinks that much that greeks are better than 14.5 for greeks, but it isnt.

carthage-scythia, 14.5 for carth.
carthage-pont, can be 500 less for pont.

scythia-spain, can be changed spain to have 15.5k, would be the best i think.
scythia-pont, 15k scy, 13k pont. this one one of the worst balanced zyzz:).
scythia-brits, also no warlords here.
scythia-thrace, can be 500 more for thrace here.

armenia-pont, this money but limits on pont chars. 2 i would say, 3 max.
armenia-brits, with this money, should be 4 chars max. or even 3.
armenia-sele is enough 13.5 for sele.

parthia-pont, same as for armenia, 2 chars max here for pont.
parthia-rome, 14.5 for parf, or 15.5 for rome. parf is better anyway.
parthia-brits, put 16k for brits. if you count parf money with the rest barbarian factions you set here zyzz, you will see brits should have 16k here.

spain-brits, no warlords for brits. or limit chars on 1, same you can do for all matchups where i said no warlords for brits.
spain-macedon, mace must have 500 less.
spain-sele, spain can have 500 less here.

pontus-rome, 15 vs 15. rome is maybe even better than pont.

brits-dacia, no warlords or 1 char max.
brits-greeks, should be 15 15.
brits-sele, should be 13k for brits, or even 12.5.

dacia-macedon, 16k vs 13k.
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Старый 22.04.2016, 17:31   #3
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if gaul will have than we can go like this:
egy-gaul, madgehs suggestion should be fine.
numidia-gaul, 15k vs 16k.
carthage-gaul, 13k vs 18k.
scythia-gaul is ok from madgehs table.
armenia-gaul 13k, gaul 19k.
parthia-gaul, 12.5k vs 19k.
spain-gaul, 14.5 vs 15.5 is ok.
pont-gaul, 12.5k vs 19k.
rome-gaul, i must laugh again on madgehs table, lmao. 12.5k rome, 19.5 gaul.
brits-gaul, 15k no chars vs 15k.
dacia-gaul, 14.5k vs 15k.
germania-gaul, i guess can be used madgehs table.
thrace-gaul, 15k vs 17k.
greeks-gaul, 13.5k vs 16.5k
macedon-gaul, 12.5k vs 18.5k
sele-gaul, 12.5k vs 19k.
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Старый 23.04.2016, 14:00   #4
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The table was corrected and it looks like that atm.

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Старый 23.04.2016, 14:11   #5
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my clan wont play with that table. changes are minor and even made table worse. but i am sure noone will accept this table. look what i wrote up, and try to use sanity instead of trolling. this table imo is nothing more but attempt to troll the con and its very foundations.
finally i am ready to crush you on the battlefield with factions i told up need to be changed(talking about money), like 4 of 5 in very matchup.
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Старый 23.04.2016, 14:59   #6
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You want me to change everything you've wrote? Don't be funny.

A lot, even 90% of changes "you say" will vary from player to player. You say it should be like that. Others say different. It's impossible to make a table which everyone will like. So I just make a table which will work for every match.

And please, just stop making shit like accept my changes or I will not participate. Don't want to play? Don't play. Your deal.

I don't pretend you all to use this table. I promised to make good one and I do. That's all.
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Старый 23.04.2016, 15:34   #7
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And Earth if you want to "crush you on the battlefield with factions i told up" I'll give you a chance.
Post below 5 unfair matches in your opinion (post matches which are really unfair and one side will crush other for sure) and name favorites.
I'll chose one of them and will play you as weak side 5 games in this match to show it's very playable.
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Старый 23.04.2016, 17:20   #8
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i dont want to play one or 5. i want to play all i wrote up, plus probably even more, cause i didnt red the rest f the table, cause its one of the worst tables i ever met. and ofc i ll beat you even with my money, cause i am simply better player. but that doesent matter. i will also bring some of the average players to beat you with yours money, cause its just stupid balance.
tho like i said this table is already refused by rv, and i am sure the rest of the allies will refuse it aswell. i also promise you once i beat you, if you wont cooperate, you will be removed from this project totally, probably as your entire clan.
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I have no time to play everything you wrote. I can give you 1 hour of my time to play those 5 games.

If your words are nothing, I'm sure you'll make exuses like that. So if you really believe in shit you've wrote 5 games is enough to prove it.
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Старый 23.04.2016, 20:18   #10
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Just looking at first line of Egypt and I found some really bad matchups. Table is not ready for sure. Keep the work on

Egypt vs Dacia (Egypt was favorite even in my table, now is even more, and Scythia gets more avantage money then Dacia vs Egy)
Egypt vs Germans (Germans no chances)
Egypt vs Sele (Sele too powerful)
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